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Podcast

Marshall Greenwald on the Future of Payments — Highlights from Payment Podium

In a recent episode of the Payment Podium podcast, Marshall Greenwald, founder of Ionia, sat down for a candid conversation about the evolution of payments and how new technologies are reshaping the industry. 

From the challenges of managing cash flow to the complexities of fraud prevention, Marshall shared his journey and the insights that led to the creation of IoniaPay—a solution that aims to make payments faster, safer, and more merchant-friendly.

The Journey to Instant Payments

Marshall kicked things off by reflecting on how he got into the payments space back in the 90s, when he worked at a bank and initially misunderstood what a “merchant account” was all about. It turns out, he thought it had something to do with ships—an amusing misconception that many of us can probably relate to. By 1999, he knew he wanted to take a different path, one that didn’t involve the rigid structures of traditional banking. That's when he decided to start his own payments business — from DPS, to Ionia — eventually leading to IoniaPay.

Today, IoniaPay stands out because it focuses on instant payments and instant settlement. Marshall explained that the traditional payment systems—like ACH—often keep merchants waiting for days to get their money. With IoniaPay, Marshall wants to put an end to the long waiting times by providing instant settlement with no fraud risk. He made it clear that for merchants, having immediate access to funds isn't just about convenience; it's about survival.

Eliminating Fraud from the Payments Equation

Fraud is one of the biggest headaches for merchants, and Marshall didn’t shy away from talking about it. He pointed out that the traditional tools available to merchants—things like Address Verification Service (AVS) and Card Verification Value (CVV)—are simply not enough in today's digital world. Fraudsters have gotten smarter, and merchants need better tools to keep up. 

With IoniaPay, Marshall has designed a direct connection between consumers and merchants, cutting out many of the middlemen who complicate the transaction process. This approach not only simplifies the payment but also reduces the opportunities for fraud. It’s an innovative way to protect merchants without relying solely on regulations or old-school security measures.

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Cash Flow Without the Wait: The Power of Instant Settlement

Marshall shared an example that will resonate with any small business owner. Imagine it’s Monday morning, and you’re trying to make payroll after a busy weekend. Under the traditional payment systems, the money from weekend sales might still be “in transit,” meaning you can’t use it yet. 

With IoniaPay, those funds are available immediately—giving merchants the kind of cash flow flexibility that can make or break their week. Marshall emphasized that this isn’t just about getting paid faster—it’s about being able to operate smoothly without the anxiety of delayed cash flows.

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Reimagining the Payment Relationship

The payments ecosystem is notoriously complex, with ten or more parties involved in a single transaction—from banks to processors, acquirers, and networks. Marshall made a compelling point about how each extra layer adds not just cost but also complexity and opportunities for error or fraud. 

By creating a direct relationship between merchants and consumers, IoniaPay aims to simplify these processes, lower costs, and eliminate much of the manual reconciliation that current payment systems require. This is a game-changer for businesses that just want a payment process that works.

How AI is Changing Payments

Artificial Intelligence was another hot topic. Marshall highlighted how AI is transforming the payments landscape—not just in fraud detection but in creating more engaging consumer experiences. He explained that embedding AI directly into transactions enables smarter, real-time decision-making. 

Whether it’s deciding if a transaction should be approved or declined, or even offering personalized rewards at checkout, AI can turn payments into a proactive, rather than reactive, process. This kind of technology is redefining what’s possible in the payments industry.

Looking to the Future: Consumerization of Payments

Marshall also discussed the growing consumerization of payments. He noted that, historically, payments have been a merchant-driven process where the consumer had little say in how they wanted to pay. But today, consumers expect more options and more control. 

Whether it's deciding between different payment methods at checkout or choosing how to apply rewards, people want to be in charge of their own transactions. IoniaPay is stepping into this trend by giving more control to consumers, enhancing the payment experience by allowing flexibility and customization.

The Bottom Line: Listening to Customers is Key

When it comes to advice for those entering the payments industry, Marshall had a simple yet powerful message: listen to your customers. He spent years conducting face-to-face interviews with merchants to understand their pain points, and it was these conversations that inspired IoniaPay. The path to success, according to Marshall, involves resilience, a willingness to adapt, and above all, a focus on genuinely solving the problems that customers face every day.

Marshall’s discussion on Payment Podium highlighted the need for simplicity, security, and immediacy in payments. As we look to the future, it’s clear that those who can streamline these processes and listen to their customers will lead the charge in transforming how payments are handled across industries.

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